2018-01-26 Today eventually I installed JOSM for OSM editing. I'm not happy with this step, but other editors really aren't on the same lev- el. It meant that I had to install Java. :-( What I installed is Java 6 and JOSM 5xxx. Current today are Java 8 and JOSM 13xxx. ... no words for that. http://marmaro.de/lue/ markus schnalke