2011-11-03 Students who program too much Java, write bad C code. I think the reason is not that they are bad programmers general- ly, but that they haven't learned about STYLE. Yes, style is a matter of taste ... oh, it's so hard to accept that. More and more I tend to believe that there is good style and bad style, independent of individual taste. But ... Anyways, reading those student's programs showed me that my level of programming skill and my sense for style can not be expected from average programmers. On the Internet, I have daily contact to programmers with good skills and a fine sense for style; thus, over the years, I got the impression that this would be normal. No, it is not. At least, this knowledge explains some things. ;-) http://marmaro.de/lue/ markus schnalke