2010-12-13 I had always been annoyed that the clock I have in the hardstatus line of my screen session made the terminal to scroll back to the very end each minute. Fortunately I could solve this issue now (actually some time ago). Therefore my .Xdefaults contains: urxvt*scrollTtyOutput: false urxvt*scrollTtyKeypress: true The first line is the fix for the above. The second line enables ``jump to the bottom if I press a key'', which is probably what you want. The matching command line options are +si and -sk. I once used a very small font (12px) with a high resolution (1400x1050 on 15.4"). [0] This was back in 2007. Through time I moved even more to fullscreen windows and fewer characters per screen. Either it's because my programming style became more Unix-like, or because I stopped doing much web scripting, or because I worked more with ed(1) in the meanwhile -- I don't know, maybe it's all of them. As a result, I have now less need for 200x80 chars in the fullscreen terminal. Currently `stty -a' prints: ``rows 32; columns 92;'' It would be nice to have a standard 80x25 char terminal in fullscreen in the X window manager, but that's a matter of resolution and font, hence it does not always fit exactly. In fact 80x25 wouldn't be as good as 88x25 because I very much like `:set nu' in vi and `n' in ed. Therefore, the 92 cols aren't too bad. The question of having line numbers or not is more complex and kind of a problem in Terminals, because they are out-of-band information. I'd really love to hear the experience on the topic of some hardware terminal users in the good old days. Would one use `nu' in vi if there are only 80 cols avail- able? Trying to work on some program with only a little time, sometimes makes things worse. One needs the time to understand everything of need and then do it right, instead of hacking around (in Ger- man: ``verschlimmbessern''). Understanding the ideas behind something is essential to under- standing it. [0] http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/1946/screenshotpantheon20070cs9.png http://marmaro.de/lue/ markus schnalke